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Mets Hurting;Red Sox-Mets Potential Trade

  • After the first loss to the Phillies this past series, MetsBlog.com writer, Regis Courtemanche wrote, “Win or lose, I love the way the Mets are playing right now.  They seem completely focused on the task at hand, and Citi Field seems to have finally come alive. Still disappointing to let this one get away though.” FYI, MetsBlog is one of the best (Mets) Blogs out there. To be honest, I disagree with the statement, however the Mets are without their starting SS, 1b, 2 SP’s and both our set-up men. That’s right – “both.” Eventually this season, the Mets will have Jose Reyes, Carlos Delgado, JJ Putz, Billy Wagner, Oliver Perez (and John Maine now) all coming off the DL. The Phillies are only 4 games ahead, but with a bullpen of K-rod, and potentially healthy and effective relievers, such as Wagner and Putz, the Mets rotation will only have to pitch 6 effective innings each night (for the most part). And that’s great because it seems Redding , Maine , and Oliver (and often times Santana and Pelfrey) can never pass that plateau. The offense will have to come out romping, however – something they couldn’t do last year and something they haven’t been able to do this season even prior to Reyes and Delgado going down. With that said, I’m still very willing to “wait and see” how the Mets perform after Reyes, Delgado, Maine, Oliver, Putz, and Wagner come back, however, the question is and will be – is it too late?

    Do the Mets need to do something to shake the team up? In a prior post (http://www.majorleagueblogging.com/major-league-baseball/lets-play-gm-mets-crazy-trade-scenarios/), I talked about the potential need to shake up the team, and I threw out some crazy trade scenarios. The reality is, people, reporters, and teams are catching on that the Red Sox have 9 at least effective or ready major league starters. It’s also fairly clear they could use an effective shortstop, which is where, to me, the Mets should come in to play. I love Reyes, but could he land us both Clay Buchholz and Michael Bowden? I think he could. I think that’s worth it – for both teams. We could potentially add a catching prospect to the deal (Francisco Pena or Josh Thole) – they’re young, but the Red Sox have and may have a need for a catcher in the future if they don’t trade for/sign Joe Mauer/Twins (after or during) next year. Another potential aspect I would add to to the deal (if I were Omar Minaya) is Oliver Perez. This is only to free up salaray to trade for and sign another need (Matt Holliday)? That’s not essential, but if the Red Sox were willing to take on Perez’s salary in addition to losing their top 2 pitching prospects in the deal, then I would do that. I’d then, however, ask for a more than effective reliever: Manny Delcarmen/Takashi Saito. So i’d potentially like to see:

    Mets Receive: Clay Buchholz/sp; Michael Bowden/sp; Takashi Saito/rp; Jed Lowrie/ss

    Red Sox Receive: Jose Reyes/ss; Oliver Perez/sp; Josh Thole or Francisco Pena/c

    I guess there’s a contingency – Jose Reyes’ health. Would this prevent such a trade? The Sox do still have Nick Green and Julio Lugo to hold down the ss job while Reyes is out. Again this would then allow us to potentially go for Matt Holliday, Mark Derosa, or other outfielders via trade this season or free agency after, so Daniel Murphy could stay at first next year with the assumption that Carlos Delgado will be gone. Our lineup would obviously hurt without Reyes for the rest of the year, but if we trade for another bat for the lineup, the Rotation with Buchholz and or Bowden would be much more effective than Tim Redding.

    Agreed?

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  1. #1 BaffeledReader says:
    June 14, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    That is the most lopsided trade i’ve ever seen…the red sox 2 top pitching prospects plus lowrie who will be the every day starter for them soon enough all for…jose reyes, who isn’t even that great. The red sox already have a leadoff man who can steal any bag in ellsbury, why would they want the exact same type of player in they’re lineup? Oh, not to mention he isn’t even good defensively. An why in the world would boston want oliver perez?? Is this a joke??? AND I’ve never even heard of thole and pena, are those baseball players???? What a joke.

  2. #2 BaffeledReader says:
    June 14, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    P.S. Last year, the red sox were going to send Buchholz and Lowrie along with a few others to the Twins for SANTANA. Why would they send the same package for Jose Reyes? This makes no sense.

  3. #3 Elitus Maximus says:
    June 15, 2009 at 10:33 am

    Haha, not even that miracle trade could chanage the Mets’ season. Please remove your post.

  4. #4 Rexjohn009 says:
    June 18, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    Wow, the Sox wouldn’t even trade Lowrie and Bowden for Reyes. Your illogical and your thinking is delusional.

    And why the hell would we want Oliver Perez and his salary??… he can’t get outs in the NL and like you said, our pitching is deep.

    Remember in the offseason when we rejected your Reyes for Dice-K offer?

    You’re a moron.

  5. #5 Anonymous says:
    June 18, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    wow some passionate responses. obviously i was talking out of my rear.
    thanks though.
    i’ll make sure i screen my thoughts/desires next time haha.

  6. #6 Author (Dschwartz) says:
    June 30, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    This is the author and in response to the above nay-sayers:
    http://www.metsblog.com/
    “…lastly, i’d have to think long and hard about what can be had for Jose Reyes, whose ultimate potential i am starting to lose faith in… last month, Boston talk-radio host Danny Picard suggested on his blog I’m Just Sayin, that, in the off season, the Red Sox should offer RHP Clay Buchholz, top prospect RHP Michael Bowden, OF Jacoby Ellsbury and SS Jed Lowrie to the Mets for reyes… this would be super tempting, to say the least…

    …i’d then look to wrap these players around a young, aggressive manager, who values statistics as much as his gut…”
    -Matthew Cerrone/Metsblog.com

    ….EXACTLY.

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